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Harvey,
I get all bent out of shape over those who wish to take our firearms from us. My response to such people......."Go ahead and try. Good luck." They usually get my drift.
Only the dumb ones seem to have a hard time understanding my position.......of course, their numbers are great, so I do a lot of explaining.
Joel
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KThompson,
I firmly believe that only those who own guns should be allowed to vote.
And don't laugh.......as this was once the case in this country.
Progress isn't always for the better.
Joel
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KThompson,
One vote per gun? No sir.......One vote per household, with only the head of household being allowed to vote.
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"Every male citizen of the commonwealth liable to taxes or to militia duty in any county, shall have a right to vote for representatives for that county to the legislature." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes for a Constitution, 1794. FE 6:520
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By law, EVERY MALE WAS REQUIRED TO OWN FIREARMS.
(See: The Militia Act of 1792)
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I. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia.........(continued)
That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of power and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and power-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a power of power; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack....(continued)
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Those who refused to sign up for militia duty were not permitted to vote.
I'm not convinced that changing this system was a good idea. In fact, I highly doubt the wisdom of it.
Joel
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Mobilus,
You're right in all regards, my friend.
The problems we face today have roots that go way back in time. It's not that the current generation is failing.......is that the problems we've created are simply manifesting themselves...compounding.....over time.
The creation of a permanent standing army, which our Founders were entirely opposed to, was the start of this downhill trend in our society. No longer do the American people feel that they are responsible for the defense of their nation. They now look to BIG BROTHER (otherwise known as Uncle Sam) for protection....even from their own neighbors.
There's an American historian whom I have a great amount of respect for, by the name of Jon Roland.
(there is no "h" in Jon. I spelled his name correctly.)
Here's something written by Jon Roland.....which I believe you'll appreciate very much.
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Militia v. Inimicitia
by Jon Roland, Constitution Society
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Please visit the link below.
Joel
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In a nation governed by the people themselves, the possession of arms to defend their nation against usurpers within and without was deemed absolutely necessary. This right is protected by the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. A gun was an everyday implement in early American society, and Jefferson recommended its use.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. ME 5:85, Papers 8:407
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My gun is my constant companion.
I don't fly, because the idiots in Congress won't allow me to arm myself. I don't travel by public transportation for the same reason. In fact, I rarely leave my home State.
I carry a gun, and I never leave home without it.
Too bad those people aboard those planes on the morning of 9-11 were not allowed to take part in the defense of their own nation. To do so would have been a FEDERAL OFFENSE!.....a FELONY....with jail time of up to 20 years!......the loss of all gun rights for life....and the loss of the right to vote for LIFE!
Only God can save us from this stupidity.
Joel
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Murf,
I agree. Leaving one's troubles behind, rather than facing up to them, is nothing but cowardly.
On the other hand, policing the entire world, as the U.S. is currently doing, is no danged better. It sends a very dangerous and harmful message.......that no matter what happens, Uncle Sam will be there to bail you out. PHOOEY! NONSENSE! How much Dumber could we possibly be?
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Mobilus,
North Dakota has fewer gun laws than any other State. I chalk this up to the fact that we have very few cities, and even a fewer number of colleges, liberals, and other liberal wackos. It also helps that most of our lawmakers are farmers, who live in very rural areas, where police protection doesn't exist.
We don't even have a Death Penalty here in North Dakota, because we don't trust our government with this immense power......which powers can easily be abused......and most often are.
Instead, the people of North Dakota have retained the right to carry out the death penalty entirely on their own.....at the time the offense is committed.
It's all but impossible to put the wrong man to death under our system.....because the bad guy is killed during the commission of the crime. He is not allowed to escape, making no room for foul-ups by police investigators after the fact.
This makes finding the guilty party very easy. It's as simple as looking at the ground.
Joel
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Mobilus,
I'm glad you brought up "Manifest Destiny". What a crock of garbage that wonderful piece of work was.
Manifest Destiny, written by John L. O'Sullivan, in 1839, replaced the Monroe Doctrine....which was written by John Adams.
John L. O'Sullivan was a globalist. He has many followers, who may as well bend down and kiss his feet. I'm sick of these people.
I like the Monroe Doctrine. Here's an excerpt from it.
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"The citizens of the United States cherish sentiments the most friendly in favor of the liberty and happiness of their fellow-men on that side of the Atlantic. In the wars of the European powers in matters relating to themselves we have never taken any part, nor does it comport with our policy to do so. It is only when our rights are invaded or seriously menaced that we resent injuries or make preparation for our defense."
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Had we followed the Monroe Doctrine, we wouldn't have involved ourselves in WWI, WWII, the Korean conflict, or even Vietnam......and certainly not Iraq.
Bush is a globalist and is no different from Wilson, FDR, Truman, or Johnson. Those who tell me that Bush is a Republican have no idea what they're talking about. Bush is the first Democrat to be selected from a Republican ballot.
Joel
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SG8NUC,
Here's a link to John L. O'Sullivan's MANIFEST DESTINY.
I'll post a short excerpt from it for those who don't want to take the time to read the entire thing.
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John L. O'Sullivan on Manifest Destiny, 1839
All this will be our future history, to establish on earth the moral dignity and salvation of man -- the immutable truth and beneficence of God. For this blessed mission to the nations of the world, which are shut out from the life-giving light of truth, has America been chosen; and her high example shall smite unto death the tyranny of kings, hierarchs, and oligarchs, and carry the glad tidings of peace and good will where myriads now endure an existence scarcely more enviable than that of beasts of the field. Who, then, can doubt that our country is destined to be the great nation of futurity?
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Mark,
I feel as though I've known you for a very long time. We have much in common, Sir.
Our Founders read a great many books on government, from Plato to Montesquieu. They had also read the Bible, and possibly several times during their lives.
With the invention of the computer and software programs, it is now possible for us to search through the writings of our Founders to determine which words or phrases appear most often in their letters, books, essays, and other papers.
The results may be surprising to some.
Enjoy.
The "Top 40" Authors cited by the Founding Generation
1.St. Paul
2.Montesquieu
3.Sir William Blackstone
4.John Locke
5.David Hume
6.Plutarch
7.Cesare Beccaria
8.Trenchard and Gordon
9.De me
10.Samuel Pufendorf
11.Sir Edward Coke
12.Cicero
13.Thomas Hobbes
14.William Robertson
15.Hugo Grotius
16.Jean-Jacques Rousseau
17.Lord Bolingbroke
18.Francis Bacon
20.Richard Price
21.William Shakespeare
22.Livy
23.Alexander Pope
24.John Milton
25.Tacitus
26.Coxe
27.Plato
28.Abbe Guillaume Raynal
29.Abbe Gabriel Mably
30.Niccolo Machiavelli
31.Emmerich de Vattel
32.William Petyt
33.Voltaire
34.John Robinson
35.Algernon Sidney
36.John Somers
37.James Harrington
38.Paul de Rapin-Thoyras
The above information is available at the Online Library of Liberty.
Joel
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Mobilus,
I'm not sure why it is, but the Swiss seem to have missed out on a great opportunity. It seems that there were a number of men who referred to themselves as being of Swiss heritage -- but published their writings in France, Germany, or England.
Brother Klaus (I forget his real name.....this was the name assigned to him by his fellow countrymen.) may have been the only Swiss philosopher who was allowed to remain within the borders of Switzerland.
We'll have to get together somewhere. I'll buy you a cup of coffee or three, while we talk guns, politics, and history.
Without guns, there wouldn't be much history to discuss. And without politics, man wouldn't have much need for guns.
Joel
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Mark,
Glad to know you, Sir.
I spent about 16 years in uniform, with 5 years active and an additional 11 years in the Army Reserves.
It was during my stay in Georgia that I met a man who introduced me to U.S. history......the version they don't teach in U.S. public schools. I've been hooked on the subject ever since. Of course, I was introduced to the topic by a very good teacher, while I was still in junior high.
Jim Fitt served in Vietnam with the 1st Armored Division. He lost a leg when a land mine exploded beneath his 2-1/2 ton truck. He was a college graduate with a degree in military history from Kansas State. We became good friends, and he often stayed with me and my wife whenever I would cook up some Georgia venison for supper.
Jim passed away shortly after I left Georgia. I miss him a great deal. There are few men I've met in my life that were as kind, or as willing to share what they learned in life.
It seems to me that military men often know more about history than most other people......and I believe this has a lot to do with wanting to know more about the situations we end up in, when freezing in a foxhole, in some foreign nation.
I've never been to Texas. It is one of only a few States that I've never made it to. However, should I ever head in that direction, I'll be sure to let you know that I'm on my way. I'd enjoy having a cup of coffee with you, Sir.
Joel
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Dear friends,
This came to me from a very trustworthy source.
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007
You'd think that when rabid, anti-gun legislators like Sen. Charles Schumer and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy join together to pass anti-gun legislation, it would raise a few red flags.
But these two New York Democrats are currently planning to roll over gun owners with H.R. 2640 -- legislation which would bar you from owning guns if:
* You are a battle-scarred veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or
* As a kid, you were diagnosed with ADHD.
Not to mention the fact that your ailing grandfather could have his entire gun collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's (and there goes the family inheritance).
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More info on H.R. 2640 is available on the net.
Now our nation's military veterans are being targeted for disarmament. It never seems to stop.
Please call your representatives in Congress and then deliver a personal message regarding your opinion on this proposed legislation.
I thank you.
Joel
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KThompson,
"..how many people are killed each year by bad people with guns....?" (KT)
Too many, Sir. I don't know the exact number, because the FBI categorizes every gun death into one lump sum. The good people killed by the bad guys are lumped together with the bad guys killed by homeowners.
I can tell you this much.......Not enough bad people are killed by good people with guns.
Far too many violent criminals are repeat offenders, simply because far too many good guys surrendered their right to defend themselves. For some odd reason too many of my fellow Americans tend to believe that a policeman, 40 minutes away, will do a better job of protecting them from the criminals, than they are capable of doing themselves.
It's a sad time we live in. Whatever happened to people like those who lived in Northfield, Minnesota, when the Younger gang came to town to rob a bank?
I was born in the wrong century. I'm way out of place in this new society we live in.
Joel
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In the very near future, any person who attempts to purchase a firearm will have to answer the following questions.....
Have you ever been treated for depression?
Have you ever visited with a psychiatrist, or a marriage councilor?
Have you ever taken Prozac, or Ritalin?
Have you ever considered suicide?
Have you ever killed an animal? (Deer hunting counts)
Do you suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?
Are you a combat veteran?
Have you ever killed another human being, for any reason, including self-defense?
Are you an Alzheimer patient? (Don't answer with, "I don't remember."
Have you ever gone through a divorce?
Have you ever lost a child or a spouse?
Have you ever had a pet get run over and killed?
Have any of your children ever run away from home?
Have you ever been fired from a job?
Have you ever filed for bankruptcy?
Have you ever lost a home due to flood, fire, or other natural disaster?
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I could add at least a hundred other such questions to this list.
All of these things cause some form of mental stress on a person.......and all of these things can result in some form of temporary mental depression.
In any or all of the cases above, a person could now be found incompetent to own firearms.
Our elected idiots aren't as dumb as we might think. They tried to ban firearms for years, without success. They've now figured out that it is much easier to ban gun owners, than to ban guns.
Joel
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Mobilus,
The most underutilized tool in this nation, in defense of our liberties, is the jury.
I've studied our jury system for years. It is a very powerful tool, but more importantly, it is a peaceful means of carrying out a political revolution.
No firearms are needed to preserve our freedoms. No people have to be killed in defense of our natural rights. Civil Wars can be completely avoided.....thanks, in part, to our Founders.
William Penn was arrested and put on trial for violating the Conventicle Act.....a law which prohibited the exercise or practice of any religion other than that approved by the King.
Penn's jurors knew the difference between man's law and God's law. They knew full well that Penn had never harmed any person.......Penn had only insulted the King, indirectly, at that.
Any group of politicians can pass any law they please. They can pass good laws, or bad laws. At any rate, the bills they pass become law, and consequences are dished out to any person who fails to obey them.
This is where the jury comes into play.
The jury's job is to sort out the good laws from the bad ones. Any bad law is supposed to be NULLIFIED by the jury. A single "NO" vote is enough to undo the wrongs done by the lawmakers..........but the American people don't seem to know anything about this immense power they possess, nor do they seem to want to learn anything about it.
The power to preserve our freedoms is already in our hands. We don't need any other tools, nor do we need to get violent about the loss of our freedoms. Preserving our freedoms is as simple as voting "NOT GUILTY, YOUR HONOR".
The Citizens Rule Book is available on the net, free of charge. I encourage every American to read it.
Enjoy the reading. Remain free!
Joel
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Mark,
Sorry for the confusion, Sir.
I hadn't yet read your letter before posting my last one. My letter was not in response to anything you wrote. It was written as an afterthought to a previous letter I posted.
I agree with you, in that we need to remove many of our elected officials from office, but the question remains as to what to do about the laws they passed while "serving" us.
The answer is two-fold. Remove the elected criminals, and then take action, as jurors, to undo the harmful laws they brought down upon us.
It's a war with many fronts. There is no single thing we can do to rid ourselves of these people and their evil laws.
On top of the many valuable points you brought up......We have to stop sitting in the Jury box, acting as if we're only there to decide the issue of guilt or innocence. Determining the merit of the law, itself, should be our first priority, as jurors.
We have to stop convicting people of owning illegal firearms when they used those firearms in defense of their own lives, or in defense of their neighbors.
If the firearm was put to proper use, I don't care if the weapon used had been BANNED by the federal government. If the weapon had been discharged in self-defense, then no crime was committed. Therefore......."NOT GUILTY!"
This is how we defend our Freedoms and Liberties.
Voting out the rascals is just one step....but it doesn't address the issue of undoing the harmful laws they passed while in office. We need to attack on both fronts.
Joel
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